Comments on: UTAH’S CHILDREN — ARE THEY REALLY SUFFERING FROM INADEQUATE AND UNDER FUNDED PUBLIC EDUCATION? THE DATA SAYS NO! http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/2009/09/utah%e2%80%99s-children-are-they-really-suffering-from-inadequate-and-under-funded-public-education-the-data-says-no/ LaVar Christensen Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:22:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Keith Saunders http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/2009/09/utah%e2%80%99s-children-are-they-really-suffering-from-inadequate-and-under-funded-public-education-the-data-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-377 Keith Saunders Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:11:39 +0000 http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/?p=220#comment-377 All my children went to public schools - and all went to college and three of the four graduated from college. I feel our education system in Utah is doing well. I do fell we can find areas to improve and have manageable class sizes within reason and keeping the State budget balanced. All my children went to public schools – and all went to college and three of the four graduated from college. I feel our education system in Utah is doing well. I do fell we can find areas to improve and have manageable class sizes within reason and keeping the State budget balanced.

]]> By: Mark Ellis http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/2009/09/utah%e2%80%99s-children-are-they-really-suffering-from-inadequate-and-under-funded-public-education-the-data-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-376 Mark Ellis Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:00:16 +0000 http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/?p=220#comment-376 I realize that superlative is necessary in an age of political correctness, but allow me to register another opinion. First, I would not have spent more money on my children. They were successful because they were not spoiled; they had to learn to work. Second, our teachers do not always deserve more money. More than a few teachers are not competent and should be removed. The tentacles of the UEA/NEA foster the false image that all teachers are heroes and martyrs. Some are, some are not. I favor a radically different education system than we have now. Our teachers need to be fully competent before they are granted the status they are currently given; give competency exams as the Legislature tried to do just recently. Third, the unduly ornate buildings, the overburdening of staff with administration speaks to a system that is corrupt and only weakly focused on education, more onto kingdom building. My summary: work kids hard at home, don't expect a good education from teachers who have not mastered the subjects themselves and whatever you do, don't believe that the education system is about kids, it is about status and control. I realize that superlative is necessary in an age of political correctness, but allow me to register another opinion. First, I would not have spent more money on my children. They were successful because they were not spoiled; they had to learn to work. Second, our teachers do not always deserve more money. More than a few teachers are not competent and should be removed. The tentacles of the UEA/NEA foster the false image that all teachers are heroes and martyrs. Some are, some are not. I favor a radically different education system than we have now. Our teachers need to be fully competent before they are granted the status they are currently given; give competency exams as the Legislature tried to do just recently. Third, the unduly ornate buildings, the overburdening of staff with administration speaks to a system that is corrupt and only weakly focused on education, more onto kingdom building.

My summary: work kids hard at home, don’t expect a good education from teachers who have not mastered the subjects themselves and whatever you do, don’t believe that the education system is about kids, it is about status and control.

]]> By: LaVar http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/2009/09/utah%e2%80%99s-children-are-they-really-suffering-from-inadequate-and-under-funded-public-education-the-data-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-375 LaVar Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:10:02 +0000 http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/?p=220#comment-375 Thank you. The challenge to keep up with the building and expansion needs of the larger school districts has lead to numerous and frequent bond elections to raise taxes. "Truth in Taxation" statutes require public hearings to inform the public before that may happen. In some districts, they have had to basically live off a credit card for many years by renewing their debt and lines of credit for new buildings as old debt and buildings are paid off. The budget pressures are constant. My point is that Utah's children are doing well overall and the "dead last per pupil" criticism does not present the full education funding and performance picture. Thank you. The challenge to keep up with the building and expansion needs of the larger school districts has lead to numerous and frequent bond elections to raise taxes. “Truth in Taxation” statutes require public hearings to inform the public before that may happen. In some districts, they have had to basically live off a credit card for many years by renewing their debt and lines of credit for new buildings as old debt and buildings are paid off. The budget pressures are constant. My point is that Utah’s children are doing well overall and the “dead last per pupil” criticism does not present the full education funding and performance picture.

]]> By: Marvin Wharton http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/2009/09/utah%e2%80%99s-children-are-they-really-suffering-from-inadequate-and-under-funded-public-education-the-data-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-373 Marvin Wharton Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:33:06 +0000 http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/?p=220#comment-373 I really appreciate your comments I really appreciate your comments

]]> By: Marvin Wharton http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/2009/09/utah%e2%80%99s-children-are-they-really-suffering-from-inadequate-and-under-funded-public-education-the-data-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-372 Marvin Wharton Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:28:03 +0000 http://citizensforprincipledgovernment.com/?p=220#comment-372 Very interesting. I am stillsmoldering over the recent passed Nebo School District Bond. I contacted a couple of lawyers in an attempt to have the bond put on hold until an investigation was made to determine what could have been illegal, we know it was unethical. Thanks/Marvin Wharton Very interesting. I am stillsmoldering over the recent passed Nebo School District Bond.
I contacted a couple of lawyers in an attempt to have the bond put on hold until an investigation was made to determine what could have been illegal, we know it was unethical.
Thanks/Marvin Wharton

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